Every Trade Starts Negative
Every position opens at a loss, and one of the four charges keeps deepening it for as long as you hold. The spread, commission, slippage and financing are all taken for reasons that have nothing to do with whether the trade works, and their sum is the number lesson 4’s breakeven formula was actually asking for. On the trade priced below, the spread is $2.00 of a $9.29 bill, and the win rate you need just to break even moves from 50.8 to 53.9 per cent.
Prerequisites: Lesson 4, for s and the breakeven it produces, and lesson 3, for why crossing is a choice with a price attached.
Lesson 4 priced one of your costs and then said, in its last paragraph, that it was not the only one. This lesson is the other three, and what happens to the arithmetic when you add them together.
The four charges
Every one of these is money that leaves your account regardless of what the position does next. None of them is a prediction, an opinion or a probability. They are the price of the seat.
| Charge | What it is | Charged |
|---|---|---|
| Spread | The price of not waiting: half on the way in, half on the way out, measured against the midpoint. | Per round trip |
| Commission and fees | What the broker takes, plus the exchange and regulatory fees passed through with it. Usually per share or per contract, often with a floor. | Per round trip |
| Slippage | The gap between the price you decided at and the price you got — the quote moved while you were deciding, or your size was larger than the size resting at the top of the book. | Per round trip |
| Financing | Interest on money you borrowed, the borrow fee on a short, or the funding payment on a perpetual. | Per night held |
Three are charged per trip, one is charged per night
That last column carries more than it looks. Three of the four are paid once each way and do not care how long you stay; the fourth is paid for the staying and does not care how you got in. So the two obvious ways to trade are taxed by different columns. Trade more often and you multiply the first three. Hold longer and you multiply the fourth. There is no schedule that avoids both, which is why “just trade less” and “just hold longer” are not the same advice and are not both free.
It also means the mix is not fixed. On a position closed the same afternoon, financing is zero and the other three are the whole bill. On a position held for a quarter, financing can dwarf the other three put together, and the entry technique is rounding error.
They all go in the same place
Lesson 4 wrote s for the spread divided by the distance to your stop, and derived that at one-to-one reward to risk you break even at a win rate of (1 + s) ÷ 2. Look at what that derivation actually used. It never used the fact that s was a spread. It used only that it was money taken on the round trip, measured in the same units as the money at risk.
So widen the definition and nothing else changes. Let C be the sum of all four charges in currency, and R the currency at risk — your stop distance multiplied by your size. Then
s = C ÷ R, and the breakeven win rate is still (1 + s) ÷ 2.
The formula is the same one. The number going into it is usually several times bigger than the one lesson 4 used.
One trade, priced properly
Buy 200 shares of a $50 stock — a $10,000 position — with a stop $0.60 away. The money at risk is 200 × $0.60 = $120, and that $120 is the denominator for everything below.
The stock is quoted a penny wide. Your broker charges half a cent a share each way with a $1 minimum. On the way in your 200 shares were bigger than what was resting at the ask, so the fill averaged a cent past the quote; the exit filled at the quote. You bought on 2:1 margin, so $5,000 of it is borrowed at 8 per cent a year, and you held it three nights.
| Charge | Arithmetic | Cost |
|---|---|---|
| Spread | $0.01 × 200, once for the round trip | $2.00 |
| Commission | $1.00 each way | $2.00 |
| Slippage | $0.01 average × 200, on the entry only | $2.00 |
| Financing | $5,000 × 8% × 3 ÷ 365 | $3.29 |
| Total | $9.29 |
Now run it through the formula twice. On the spread alone, s = $2.00 ÷ $120, or 1.7 per cent, and the breakeven win rate is 50.8 per cent — the reassuring number, and the one lesson 4 would have given you. On all four, s = $9.29 ÷ $120, or 7.7 per cent, and the breakeven win rate is 53.9 per cent.
Three points of win rate is three more wins in every hundred trades, asked of a setup that has not changed. And only one of the four charges is visible on a chart: in this bill the spread is $2.00 of $9.29, under a quarter of what the trade cost, and the three you cannot see are the rest of it.
What this does not settle
That these are your numbers. Commission schedules, borrow rates and funding payments differ by broker, instrument and country, and the slippage line is the one that varies most — it is a measurement of your own fills against your own book, which is what lesson 11 is for. Take the four for yourself and the arithmetic here is a template rather than a claim.
Nor does it establish that everything scales with your size. Spread and financing do: double the position and both double, the risk doubles too, and s is unchanged. The other two do not. Slippage grows faster than size, because a bigger order reaches further into the book, and a commission floor works the other way — at 200 shares the minimum works out to a cent a share on the round trip, and at 100 shares the same minimum is two cents a share. The smallest accounts pay the most per share, which is the opposite of what a percentage fee would do.
And the breakeven still assumes one-to-one reward to risk, exactly as it did in lesson 4. Change the payoff and the threshold changes with it. The four charges are also not quite the whole list: tax and currency conversion sit outside them, and tax is lesson 78.
Most of all, none of this is an edge. Driving s to zero does not make a coin flip profitable; it only stops the coin flip from being a slow loss. Cost sets the bar. Clearing it is the rest of the course.
The trade starts at −$9.29. Everything you do afterwards is an attempt to get back to zero and then past it, and knowing the size of that hole is what tells you whether the attempt is reasonable.
Problems
- Take one charge away. Rerun the trade at a zero-commission broker, changing nothing else. Give the new total, the new
sand the new breakeven win rate, and say how many points of win rate the commission was worth. Then say whether that answer would change which broker you use. - Find where the columns cross. On the same position and the same 8 per cent, how many nights does it take before financing alone equals the other three charges put together? Give the number, and then say what that implies about holding a trade with a $0.60 stop for a month.
- Take your own four. For your last ten trades, record all four charges and the currency at risk, and compute
sfor each. Your median is the bar your setup has been clearing, or not. Compare it to the spread-only figure you computed in lesson 4, and say which of the four charges is doing the most damage — because that is the one worth working on, and it may not be the one you have been working on.
Sources. Brad Barber and Terrance Odean, “Trading Is Hazardous to Your Wealth” (Journal of Finance 55, 2000), which separates what a household’s stock picks earned from what the household earned, and finds the gap in turnover multiplied by cost. Richard Roll, “A Simple Implicit Measure of the Effective Bid-Ask Spread” (Journal of Finance 39, 1984), the ancestor of every method for recovering real trading cost from prices rather than from a fee schedule. Charles Jones, “A Century of Stock Market Liquidity and Trading Costs” (Columbia working paper, 2002), on how far commissions and spreads have fallen — which is why the charges that have not fallen now dominate.
Three of the four charges you can read off a schedule before you trade. The fourth you have to measure, it is the one that grows with your size, and the next lesson is how to put a number on it.
The Spread Is the Price of Immediacy
Where s and the breakeven formula come from, with one charge in it instead of four.
Slippage and Impact at Retail Size
The one charge here you cannot read off a schedule, and how to measure yours.
Read Lesson →What Should You Actually Trade
The same arithmetic turned into a ranking across every instrument you might use.
Read Lesson →When Your Broker Acts Without You
What the borrowed half of the position entitles the lender to do.
Read Lesson →Educational only. Trading involves substantial risk of loss. Not financial advice. Past performance does not guarantee future results.
💬 Discussion (0 comments)
Loading comments...
Ready to Trade with Signal Pilot?
Apply your trading education with professional indicators and real-time market analysis tools.
Back to Signal Pilot →